Pivot With Purpose Season 5 Episode 9 Christina Muccio Eaton Full Transcript

Meghan Houle (00:00.834) Christina Muccio Eaton, welcome to the Pivot With Purpose podcast because we had to throw in, I mean, you're a married woman now. So we're gonna, we're taking that other last name now. Mooch (00:09.677) I have a married woman and I'm always starving too, so it just works. Meghan Houle (00:16.074) It really does work. Well, I had, I tried to broker the Megan Capitola hool and Mike hool was just like, absolutely not. That's a lot of words in your mouth. Mooch (00:22.389) Whoa, my cool just, that's a tongue twister. It sounds kind of like a really cool dinner plate though. Meghan Houle (00:30.73) Yes, I'll take the Capitula. Okay, get in line, take a number actually. No, I'm just kidding, love you. Yay, well thank you so much for being on the podcast and I don't know, I feel like this could be like a mini series of like how we've come into each other's worlds over the past year and like all that you've helped me in so many ways and. Shout out to Justin who will be listening and helping to edit and produce. Like thank you so much for allowing me even to pivot with this podcast. I know and for all the help and I don't know. I just feel like I'm so grateful for the community of people like I have in my world and for as much as I talk to some people and they totally hate on Boston. Like I feel like we have, we have a really great, I feel like we have a really great city. If you are in the space. Mooch (00:58.481) UCJ. Yeah. Meghan Houle (01:21.446) of like-minded individuals that are speaking your same language, right? Um, cause how long have you been in Boston? Like, tell us a little bit about like your, yeah. Of course. Mooch (01:28.717) So, yeah, first of all, thank you for having me. I'm so excited. And I actually was born north of Boston, grew up there, ended up going to college outside of Boston, did my whole kind of, I'm quitting on Boston type thing, moved around a bunch and then realized how much I actually loved it and came back. So I've been back since 2017 and I truly think leaving the city for the time that I did, it gave me so much appreciation and so much more perspective to bring back into the city, which was just exactly what I needed. So it worked out. Meghan Houle (02:08.882) Yeah, good. No, I agree with that. And I think for me, I mean, I'm this Boston transplant also. But my family grew up. We were upstate New York. And then what really drove me to come into the city was we have a Cape connection as well. But that was my mom on the Cape. And I would kind of sneakily drive to Boston when we had a lot of energy when I was a lot younger. We're like, yeah, it's midnight. Let's drive to Boston. Ha! from the cave. But I'm just like, how? How did I stay up for like 24 hours? Who have and then go to work and do all the things? But yeah, I think that it's a city that I've been here almost 20 years and but agree, I feel like I've had different lives while I've been in the city. Yeah. So there's different eras and seasons that we're in. But I agree with you. Sometimes you need to like take yourself out. Mooch (02:37.854) Yeah. Mooch (02:54.221) Totally. Yeah. Meghan Houle (03:03.414) I'd love to travel. I know you do too. It's so enriching because then you can come back and maybe appreciate where those roots are and then you're building all kinds of new things now. It's like, well, I'll get into. But so I did, I always do like a little intro before the podcast, but I just love for all the listeners also to hear from you. Where are we catching you? Like tell us like, what is Christina up to? Mooch (03:05.526) Yeah. Mooch (03:15.079) I know. Meghan Houle (03:27.206) Right now I know you got a lot of spokes in your wheel and I've also been through a lot of pit heads. So I came in to like dive in at the heart of the podcast. But what are you up to now my friends like where Yeah, what's going on? Mooch (03:27.223) Yeah. Yeah, we got a lot of shit going on over here. Mooch (03:37.533) Yeah, so currently, I'm recording live with Meg from Austin. So I'm in Austin right now. Was just down here for a retreat and ended up coming back for a bunch of different things. But I'm always looking, like Meg said, to travel and meet new people and see new perspectives. I honestly do think it gives me such a kick in the butt to feel this new inspiration to bring back to Boston. So I'm always. always traveling, currently building out two different companies right now, which is freaking wild. It's like, why not just do one when you could do two? So working on the first of its kind wellness center for Boston, which is really exciting. That's probably going to be landing end of 2024. So looking at it about a year out, which is crazy. Also supporting standing up. Meghan Houle (04:12.152) Yeah. Meghan Houle (04:15.742) No, we need to. Yeah. Mooch (04:32.657) a company right now for entrepreneurs and executives to create this community where, and it really is at the forefront of community. For so long, I built businesses around coaching and teaching, which is incredible. And I love every aspect of coaching and teaching, but this one really elevates the community aspect of it and how important it is to have networks across the board, whether you're an entrepreneur and you're in a circle of entrepreneurs or you're an executive in a circle of executives. So in so many different ways, finding these overlaps in different communities and putting it all in one place for all of the magic to just help itself, which is really fun. Meghan Houle (05:09.234) Oh, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. So prior and you know, kind of rewinding back to taking you on this journey to where you are now. I always love to ask this question. And I know you from all the things business, fitness, everything. And I always like to ask, like, are you today aligned with like how you were as a kid? Like, were you like a super athletic kid? Were you like high energy? Mooch (05:38.026) Yeah. Meghan Houle (05:38.258) Um, did you play a lot of sports? Because I feel like, I feel like we just, we grow up, but there's always something innate that stays with us. Like that is like to our core, like our DNA. So what were you like as the kid? Yeah. Yes. Mooch (05:47.063) Yeah. So I love that you're asking this because I think for me, I've never felt more connected to baby mooch as I do right now. And I couldn't figure it out for a really long time. And it almost felt forced to try and figure it out. And I finally arrived back in this space where I'm like, oh, this all makes sense. So for me, when I was little, I always had my hands in a bunch of different things, like three sport athlete at all times. I was a gymnast all year round. So like, that was a full commitment. I was trying to play the piano. I was trying to be an entrepreneur. I begged my parents for chickens to start this egg selling company, freaking wild. I had so many different hobbies and I fit into so many different spaces that you go through school, you go through college, you go through sports, and you're convinced that you have to give 100% to one thing. Meghan Houle (06:29.974) Yes, slay. Yeah. Meghan Houle (06:38.68) Mm. Mooch (06:47.873) And based on like even my human design, like I'll do my human design. I'll look at all these things and I'm like, yeah, no shit. Like I wasn't made for a one track mind. I was made for being in a bunch of different places at the same time and seeing how actually all of those places and things connect. Um, and so after I sold my business last year, right before, um, Alex and I had gotten married and I remember coming back from our wild Meghan Houle (06:57.984) No. Mooch (07:15.629) honeymoon that ended up being in New Jersey at the hospital, but story for maybe another day. But I remember coming back and being like, fuck, what am I supposed to do now? Like what is my one track? And then I realized like, that's, this is the space that I need to actually start filling in holes that have been left open for so long and just allowed not to get super woo woo, but allowed to be guided, right? Like this, there's so much power in being guided to Meghan Houle (07:19.062) Yeah. Meghan Houle (07:25.166) Hmm Mooch (07:44.873) what the next step is instead of trying to figure it out. And I truly believe from, honestly, from at least ninth grade, like high school, I was always trying to figure out what my next step was and it created this very siloed life. So when I came, you know, fast forward, I don't wanna age myself, but a long fucking time after ninth grade, I'm finally back in this space where I have all of this space to just be guided. And it's really supported me in so many different ways. So. Yeah, I think about kid mooch and like, I'm closer to kid mooch than I probably have ever been and I'm 34 years old. So it's like, it took me a little bit, but now we've arrived again. Meghan Houle (08:17.973) Yeah. Meghan Houle (08:24.202) Mm-hmm. Yeah, so early on in your career, given that, and I know I give you so much credit, and I was super grateful being not as athletic as you, but I was let on some sports teams back in the day, truly because I just didn't want to do gym in my school if you played a sport all season. Mooch (08:36.461) I'm gonna go to bed. Mooch (08:44.697) Oh, I like signed up for like two gym classes and my sport. I'm like, don't put me in a fucking classroom. Put me on a field, please, because girl can't class. Meghan Houle (08:51.622) Right, well, the thing is in gym, you're like playing kickball and you're kind of like with the cool kids who actually are athletic. And remember if you like whiffed at kickball, then you were like made fun of and then you're made fun of. Yeah. And then, getting sweaty and putting your school clothes back on, I just like... Mooch (09:02.134) Yep. Mooch (09:05.985) Then you were picked last the next week. It was just terrible. I know. Meghan Houle (09:17.634) The nineties, man, jeez. I'm just kidding. The things that we did. Well, I feel like, I don't know if we talked about this before, but even like the schools and the gyms now, I remember our musty dusty crusty gym, you probably needed like a tetanus shot to go in and like lift. It was only for like the football team. We're like, we're good. It smells in there. Like we're fine. Like no one's lifting weights. Mooch (09:19.413) Yeah. Mooch (09:34.801) Oh, the fact that it was like part of a school is beyond me. Meghan Houle (09:46.762) But no, I think being on a team, right? And that team element is just so important. I just feel like, not to go into this generation, but of these up and comers where I was having so many conversations today about helping individuals maybe early on in their careers, starting to potentially tour colleges and speak to sorority groups and or other college community groups about. how to navigate the workforce and put yourself out there these days. And I just feel like we were, I don't know. I know you and I are kind of a special breed. But when you have that innate sense of, I'm going to go out, I'm going to create opportunities. I love talking to people I can. But if you're not like that, it's been a little scary over the past few years. And then I think growing up with so much technology now and all the things, it's so crazy. But. Mooch (10:30.913) Yeah, it's hard. Yeah. Meghan Houle (10:39.966) I really appreciate our generation and I know that we've been evolving with technology, but I'm still kind of old school. But I know too, like early on in navigating out of school, you were, you kind of got into corporate America for a bit, right? So like what were, yeah, what was early mooch? Like what were you doing? And then what was that moment for your pivot with purpose? Right? Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. Mooch (10:53.973) I did, yeah. Mooch (11:00.637) That's a great question. I don't know what the fuck I was doing. I was just surviving. But no, when I graduated college, I did the whole like, oh, we need to all move to New York City and get a job. So I had actually interviewed for a job and moved all of my shit to New York City before I even graduated college. Went back, graduated college and started my, I honestly think we graduated on like a Wednesday or a Tuesday and I was starting my job on Monday. Meghan Houle (11:12.46) Mm-hmm. Mooch (11:29.161) So it was a very quick transition of like, oh, jump in, hurry up. Like I did all of the shoulds, which looking back, I'm like, oh, that's interesting. Great. But ended up working for a tech company right out of school. And I made it 10 months in New York City before I was finally like, this is not my city, mainly because I had no money. I was living with my best friend from college. It's probably the only reason I stayed for 10 months. And at the time, the company that I worked for was looking to open an office in Denver. And I was literally the joke of my office because I would always say like, oh, you guys, I have never been to the West Coast. I've never been West of Tennessee. And people were like, this girl needs to get on a fucking plane. Meghan Houle (12:18.87) Oh my god, but same like we didn't, I didn't travel. No way. Never at a younger age. Yeah. Mooch (12:21.893) Never. Yeah. And between like sports and my dad being sick, like we never, we would go to the Cape. We would go to the Cape for two weeks. And that was it. There was one time where we drove to Florida, which probably I honestly vividly remember eating hamburger helper in the back of this van that we rented, like horrifying. Meghan Houle (12:28.414) Right, same, that was me. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Meghan Houle (12:43.446) You're like delicious. Oh wait, your parents didn't do like what my aunts used to do to my cousins, which is like give them like Benadryl nighttime and they're like, hey kids, take this shot. And then we'd like sleep for like eight hours. Mooch (12:51.611) No, my mom tells this story and I'm like, I don't know if you were joking, but she used to dip our binky in whiskey. Meghan Houle (13:00.638) Yeah, yeah. I mean, the 80s, the 80s, like smoking cigarettes outside, not us, but like our parents, like tanning with like the album covers covered with like foil and baby oil. Remember when it was like cool to go outside and just put baby oil on. I'm like, how? We've come a long way, my kids. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. Mooch (13:14.685) Yeah, right? Like, yeah, we got soft. We got soft. But yeah, we did. We survived that. But yeah, did my whole stint in corporate America lasted five years? And I knew going into corporate that this wasn't going to be for me. It was like, how can I learn as much as I need to learn, make as much money as I need to survive after this, and give myself five years to really just hammer it? Meghan Houle (13:28.875) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (13:34.903) Yeah. Mooch (13:43.689) And that's exactly what I did. I was, you know, asking all the questions, learning all of the things, trying different roles until I was at a point where I was like, this is exactly what I worked for. And that was when I moved back to Boston. So, yeah. Meghan Houle (14:00.99) Yeah, yeah. So when you came back here, when did fitness come into play? Were you teaching at all in New York in your nine to five? Or like, what was that pivot for you? Yeah. OK. Mooch (14:08.477) I was, no, it was when I moved out to Denver, I started teaching a spin class, a bootcamp class and a TRX class. So functional. And I kept getting this feedback of like, we want you on the schedule more, like, you know, you're kind of like good at this, like, do you want to do more? And it was very evident to me that I was planning my work trips around when I taught at the specific studio. Meghan Houle (14:18.848) Yeah. Meghan Houle (14:37.27) Hmm. Yeah. Mooch (14:37.345) So I was like, maybe I do like this. That's great feedback for me. And so started picking up more classes. And at the time I had worked with a friend who had just left corporate America to go teach at SoulCycle. And I remember calling her and being like, Kaylee, I want out. I wanna do what you're doing. Is this possible? Is this full-time fitness thing even feasible? And she's like, dude, you would have no idea. Meghan Houle (14:58.611) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (15:06.584) Yeah. Mooch (15:06.609) So I auditioned, I went back to Boston. This was in 2016, it was Christmas Eve of 2016. And I had come home for Christmas and one of my friends, Aaron, dragged me to KDB's ride. And I remember leaving that class being like, I could fucking do that. So I walked my little ass right up to the front desk and I was like, who do I need to talk to teach you? Literally, it was me. I was like... Meghan Houle (15:10.262) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (15:27.286) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (15:32.104) You're like, I'd like to fill an application please. It's our manager. Mooch (15:36.853) I felt like Elle Woods, like, where do I need to go to be here? And that was kind of the beginning of it. And I auditioned for Bespoke and Barry's for, it was like the same weekend. I flew back to Denver. I ended up getting called back for both. So I flew back to Boston, did the callbacks, flew back to Denver. It got accepted, got back on my ass on a plane and started training. And Meghan Houle (15:39.967) Yeah. Meghan Houle (15:47.581) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (16:03.552) Oh wow. Mooch (16:03.689) taught my first bespoke and my first berries class on the same Thursday, January, or it was June 27th, and have never looked back since then. That was like my initiation of like, okay, cool, how am I going to make this work? So left corporate, probably about a month into teaching. Meghan Houle (16:13.587) Yeah. Wow. Meghan Houle (16:18.862) That's so interesting. Yeah. So your company from New York moved you to Denver. So that's like what got you to Denver. And then you came back and forth. Wow. Mooch (16:27.869) Yep. Move me to Denver. And then I actually left that company about six months after I was in Denver and started at a new company. It was a much bigger company based out of St. Louis. Really, honestly, it got voted like best company to work for year after year after year. And it honestly was. So you can only imagine, and I'm sure you have so many clients and yourself who could probably speak to this. But like, when I was leaving that job, I got so much feedback around like, Meghan Houle (16:37.347) Ahem. Meghan Houle (16:42.836) Yeah. Mooch (16:54.989) How could you leave? You're getting paid so much. You have the best benefits. You're traveling all the time. You're going to all these sporting events and these cool dinners. And I was like, honestly, I don't fucking care. I just didn't, I was at a point where it just didn't matter to me anymore. Meghan Houle (16:56.362) Yes. Meghan Houle (17:06.238) Right, that's the thing. Right. Yeah. Yes, I actually have because that was my pivot out of the fashion retail space and working at Louis Vuitton. And I remember the day exactly of like, okay, made the call. I have to I'm taking this messy action. Mooch (17:18.017) Totally. Meghan Houle (17:27.718) And there was a transition plan for me, but a lot of people like, did you have like, are you okay? Like, does something traumatic happen to you? You're literally leaving a salary job to like go work 100% commission. I'm like, yeah. And because I know I'm not wanting to do that anymore, and you're taking a little bit of a chance in yourself. And I know not everyone's set up in those situations where you can just kind of like burn it all down, but I think that it is. Mooch (17:44.524) Yeah. Meghan Houle (17:53.918) and like work for no money. But I think there is a point where if it's not purpose filling, and I know you and I talk about this so much, and you find something that is in alignment where you might be a beginner at something and it might feel scary, but you do it and look at where you are now, that's amazing. So when you came back, were you doing like, you started like doing full-time fitness and then how did this like, I mean, you always have an entrepreneurial soul, but like. Mooch (18:01.623) Yeah. Meghan Houle (18:18.114) what was like filling in around you because I know you worked out a few studios and then there was a point where then I remember you kind of not pulling away but like you I definitely saw this like creation like business side of you come together. Yeah. Mooch (18:26.509) Mm-hmm. Yeah. So for me, my dream job was always to work at Bespoke Studios and Barry's Bootcamp. I was like, this is going to be the cream of the crop. I made it, blah, blah. Right? So I was teaching, I was personal training, and I started to really look at who are the people that are coming to these classes. And there's some type of gravity between us to do something more. Meghan Houle (18:38.515) I love it. Yeah? Mooch (18:56.405) And so I dropped into this like more creative space, like you said, to start looking at how else can I take these people on a journey outside of the studio? There was a lot of, you know, questions in the studio, outside of the studio on Instagram. And I'm like, what is missing? And a big piece of it was like offering something outside of the studio. So I started a business specifically online and it was Meghan Houle (19:08.13) Mm-hmm. Mooch (19:25.233) very specific for women because I just saw such a hole in community and created this incredible community all around life coaching, fitness, mindset, and nutrition and just kind of crossed my fingers and was like, I know intuitively, I know that this is going to work. And you probably felt the same. I'd actually love to hear your thoughts on this too. But there was something so innate about Meghan Houle (19:46.527) Yeah. Meghan Houle (19:50.987) Yeah. Mooch (19:54.589) starting something. And it, it again, it just like kind of happened very organically, very naturally. I started it on Facebook. I didn't have a website. It was like, who wants to play in this group? Right? I think the first course that we ran, it was like six weeks long and it was $200 or something. And I was like, keeping my fingers crossed, hoping that like this would hit. And the second round that we did, that was in a September, that was September of Meghan Houle (19:55.914) Mm-hmm. Mooch (20:22.381) 2018, I ran another group in January, we had 54 people sign up and everyone was paying $3,000. Like it was fucking insane. It was like, oh, okay, I'm onto something here. And so intuitively knew that beyond the studio was an area that I could really support people. And being in the studio is, I mean, I'm still at Bespoke all the time. That is such a space for Meghan Houle (20:29.426) Yeah, yeah. Right. Meghan Houle (20:40.15) Mm-hmm. Mooch (20:49.585) It's kind of like this gateway to deeper work for me and for a lot of people that kind of step into that space. Meghan Houle (20:52.832) Yeah. Meghan Houle (20:57.458) And what were some of the people, I love all of that, and I know you have helped so many people over the years with all of it, and I'm sure everyone was coming up, like seeing you and all the success that you were having, like how did you do it? Can I pick your brain? You know, all this conversation, like what were people coming to you constantly about that really led you to kind of create this first offering that you did, yeah. Mooch (21:03.84) Yeah. Mooch (21:15.998) Yeah. Mooch (21:19.773) Yeah, so it started as like a mooch. What do you eat? How do you have so much energy? What do you and I realized I was like, why are you asking me this? This is so specific to me. And you are very different. Like you are unique. You are special. I know but it's so interesting. It's like, I don't want you to do what I'm doing. I want you to do what's best for you. And so that was really the premise of like, let's actually show you and guide you to Meghan Houle (21:27.469) Yeah. Meghan Houle (21:34.406) It's your role model. You're amazing. Yes. Meghan Houle (21:40.887) Yeah. Mooch (21:47.389) a space where you feel really confident about the foods that you eat and the drinks that you drink and the things that you do. Right. And as that kind of started, it was about a year in and we started noticing that we were attracting like very specific people, right? Like nurses, moms and fitness instructors, I would say were probably the top three people that we were supporting. And all of these people had these traits of notoriously putting themselves last. Meghan Houle (22:03.723) Mm-hmm. Mooch (22:15.809) and always feeling tired and feeling like they should do all the shoulds, right? All these people that I was before started showing up. And it so organically happened that there were three, actually there were four people from my move community that were like, Hey, we saw so much in like the business aspect of it. Would you be willing to like teach me how to build a business around it? And I was like, Meghan Houle (22:21.792) Right. Meghan Houle (22:43.074) to build. Yeah. Mooch (22:44.913) Yes, matter of fact, I would love that. So about a year after we had started Move, we created a business building company because it was very organically what was asked. In that first group, we had four people. And the second group we had, I think it was like 16. And it just started to grow from there. And again, it was like, when I zoom out of both of those companies and what they really stood for, they were very much so the same, right? Around like, Meghan Houle (22:47.871) Yeah, well. Meghan Houle (23:03.181) Wow. Mooch (23:14.229) the mindset of how do you show up to a gym? How do you show up to your fitness regime? How do you eat confidently? How do you sit around a kitchen table with your family who's criticizing you for whatever the fuck it is? And same with business building, which is like, how do you show up powerfully to any room that you're in? How do you, right? And so all these overlapping themes were so evident and a lot of the communities had so many different points of overlap, which was incredible. Meghan Houle (23:28.198) Yeah, yeah. Meghan Houle (23:43.878) Mm-hmm. Well, in doing all this building, I mean, I know you have taken on some great partners because, again, like I also can feel this to my soul of starting these things, like feeling like you can do it on your own, but we can only take our expertise so far. So sometimes it's like these partnerships that come in and these people that come in, but you go through seasons and cycles of people, individuals, and I do feel like, and I have seen this over the past few years, shame in individuals feeling like, oh shit, I hired the wrong person or oh God, I'm not in business with the right person. And for you that now has this next pivot of doing all these things, I know there was a moment too where you kind of stepped away and you're like, okay, I built all this and now I need to kind of move on. Mooch (24:21.889) that. Meghan Houle (24:35.838) you know, how do you know when it's time to move on? Or maybe if there's people that you're working with are just not aligning to you, because I think a lot of people struggle. And I especially know because I work with a lot of founder led brands, like they bring in a CEO, or they try to bring on a partner and y'all you're not speaking the same language or like there's something not right in alignment, right? Yeah. Mooch (24:44.181) Yeah. Mooch (24:51.646) Yeah. Yeah, it's, I think the biggest shift for me was listening to what my body was actually telling me. There is so much, and you and I have connected on so many different ways in terms of fitness, but there is so much that your body can tell you that your brain confuses you out of. And so for me, it was like, why not to be like TMI, but why is my cycle off? Why am I Meghan Houle (25:05.134) Mmm. Meghan Houle (25:09.183) Mm-hmm. Mooch (25:20.853) Why is my nervous system so irritated? Why do I feel like I'm not sleeping? Like all of these things that we're lining up to say like, hey, Mooch, pay attention because this is wonky for you. And not that it's out of like blame or anything like that, like no judgment, no criticism, nothing. It's just, it's not fucking working. And the second that you can release kind of the, it needs to work or it has to work. Meghan Houle (25:24.078) Yeah. Meghan Houle (25:27.713) Yeah. Meghan Houle (25:43.646) Right. Mooch (25:49.009) is when you really start to pick up all this information of like how it could work better for you. And there were a lot of little pings last year specifically around that for me and the direction that I was going in terms of business, but also like personally, right? Like, you know, leaving Barry's January of 2020, that was another decision that I was like, this feels so wrong in my body now. Meghan Houle (25:54.476) Yeah. Meghan Houle (26:04.59) We're home. Mooch (26:14.237) And it's not explainable. I don't have answers. It's just, it is. So left berries, pulled on more with my own business, started realizing that things weren't really falling into the place that I wanted them to be, right? And of course, the, I love that you keep saying seasons. There are seasons and reasons for every single thing in your life. And as soon as we can befriend that whole statement of maybe this is just a season. Meghan Houle (26:20.567) Yeah. Meghan Houle (26:28.77) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (26:33.056) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (26:37.1) Yeah. Mooch (26:43.337) I always joke like, mom, it's just a phase. Maybe it fucking is. Maybe there's another season that you're meant to be stepping into. This is why I always want to live in the Northeast because I'm like, the seasons there remind me that we also as humans experience seasons. The moon cycle, that's a season. That is a cycle that we as women specifically align with. There's so many things that I think... Meghan Houle (26:46.108) Yeah. Yeah, but it is. Yes. Meghan Houle (27:00.15) It's okay to change. Yeah, yeah. Meghan Houle (27:09.618) Mm-hmm. Mooch (27:13.277) you know, were kind of these little internal pings that I was receiving, that the second that I kind of turned up the volume of those internal pings, I started to get more answers to like, what's next? Meghan Houle (27:24.635) Mm-hmm. Yeah, and in this process, because I mean, oh my god. I probably have like a 72 season Netflix show from 2020 to like where I am now. Like how much I've changed and you give your, you know. But I also have a dose of like busy woman syndrome where I'm very, but I'm very much like you. I'm like, okay, I did this like what's next, what's next versus like sitting in it and celebrating how far that you've come. But in over these past three years, Mooch (27:37.323) It's so true. Mooch (27:45.036) Yeah. Meghan Houle (27:51.67) What are you really proud of and how did you trust that ping to make that big move? You've had a little bit of a rebuilding phase, right? So what are you most proud of, of really saying hell yes to over these past three years? And what was that ping that is leading you to where you are now? Mooch (27:57.814) Yeah. Mooch (28:01.441) Oh, 100%. Mooch (28:07.569) Yeah, I think the biggest thing for me, it wasn't about saying hell yes to things, it was about saying hell no to things. And that to me was probably the biggest shift in if it's not a full body, yes, don't sign me up for it. And listening to that intuition, like I've done so much work around really being guided by my intuition because for so long I was like... Meghan Houle (28:15.306) Right. Yeah. Mooch (28:36.081) no, shush, like, uh-uh, I know better. And I'm actually so proud of being able to step into what I don't know and allowing that to be my teacher versus I need to know everything. Because between you and I, and I'm sure the people that we both work with, we're always working and around high achieving humans. And high achieving doesn't always necessarily mean that we know everything. We... Meghan Houle (28:38.851) Uh huh. Meghan Houle (28:45.42) Yeah. Mooch (29:02.589) sure as fuck know a lot. We're probably really good at trivia. We know like different supplements to take. We can really tune into our body. We know a lot, but it's less about the knowingness and more about the, and I guess for me specifically, like being able to step into the unknown to really fall into exactly where I needed to be. Meghan Houle (29:26.438) Yeah, which is, so where did all of these new ideas sort of come from? How long have you been manifesting and creating and building to kind of get to what you're excited to launch soon, right? Yeah, yeah. Mooch (29:37.569) Yeah. Mooch (29:42.217) Yeah, yeah. I think truthfully, it's probably been a combination of all of the things that I've built over the years and years and years. I even think back to what was I doing going door to door selling chicken eggs? That actually got me to this spot here, right? And what's learned through those experiences that got me to this spot here? So there's a lot of gratitude that's woven into. Meghan Houle (29:47.307) Yeah. Meghan Houle (29:54.955) Mm-hmm. Mooch (30:09.501) all of the things, the ups, the downs, the fuck yeses, the noses, the shoulds, the whatevers, because honestly, without any of those, who knows if we'd be sitting on this podcast. I do believe that in some divine space, every single thing that's happened up until now, even the really shitty things have happened exactly how they needed to. I think for me, always knowing that community is something at heart that Meghan Houle (30:29.517) Yeah. Mooch (30:39.705) I really not only thrive in, but I so enjoy seeing unfold. So it's not a surprise to me that I'm starting two companies that are so heavily devoted to community and to bringing people together and to connecting dots of all different walks of life. So that to me doesn't necessarily feel super surprising, but I think in the delivery of it in so many different ways it is, right? Like I'm building my first brick and mortar, which Meghan Houle (30:51.502) Mm-hmm. Mooch (31:08.521) I don't know, if you asked me even seven, eight months ago, I would have been like, fuck no, I never want to open a brick and mortar. And now I'm like, this is the best ever. Of course I want to build a brick and mortar, right? So I don't know, it's hard to discern the actual points that made sense years ago, but I do trust that they got me to exactly where I am now, for sure. Meghan Houle (31:10.55) So cool. Yeah. Meghan Houle (31:17.397) Yeah. Meghan Houle (31:21.771) Yeah. Meghan Houle (31:31.826) Yeah. And I think it's that network community and intuition where I know you are surrounded by other like really amazing entrepreneurs. And I have to imagine, you know, there's conversations going and I'm sure a lot of bad ideas that have been thrown out, a lot of like sussing through, all right, does this make sense? And maybe who could be the right partner? But I also feel like it's finding those people that are... Mooch (31:47.891) Yep. Mooch (31:53.291) Yep. Meghan Houle (31:57.23) on this journey with you that are like, okay, how can I help you? How can I support you? And I know because I talk to these individuals all the time. There's so many people I think especially as we had, you know, we're in this new year coming up that don't feel like they know how to connect also with like minded people are like, where's the Boston networking for professionals or business owners and beyond going to fitness, which I know. Mooch (32:01.687) Yeah. Mooch (32:16.821) Yeah. Meghan Houle (32:25.338) is such a community builder in itself because it's a routine and you go and you see same people but we need a place where people can show up and have meaningful conversations, cut through the small talk. I like small talk, like I would rather like jump off my building or like take a swim. Like I don't even know and freezing cold. Well, you actually love those cold waters. But I would do. Mooch (32:27.061) Yeah. Mooch (32:35.99) Yeah. Mooch (32:40.165) Oh, it hurts. It hurts. Mooch (32:47.825) I actually love that. I would do that over all of that. Meghan Houle (32:49.91) anything, right? Not to like get into the small talk, but like have meaningful like soul building, like light yourself up conversation. So in this business partnership, do you feel like you're like connecting with like different people or the right people to like really kind of help you move some of these goals forward? And how important is that for those individuals out there listening that don't feel like they have those people like where can we find them to? Yeah. Mooch (33:04.542) Yeah. Mooch (33:12.589) 100%. Yeah, 100%. I am a firm believer in, not to use this word in a negative way, but I always am looking to be not the dumbest person in the room, but not no. I always want to be in a place where I'm being elevated to show up for the occasion. How do I put myself in more of those places? How do I also surround myself with people that see blind spots that I had no idea I had? Because until you're around those people, you're going to default to what you always knew. And for me, blind spots over the last year have been like so incredibly eye-opening to me to be like, oh, okay, I'm in this group. I was on a retreat a couple of weeks ago here in Austin, and it was like... blind spot after blind spot. And I'm like, just give it to me. Like, this is so emotional and I want all of them because I do think that there is something so special about being shown perceptions and perspectives that you had no idea you were creating. Right? So that's one thing. In terms of finding it, like, I think there's a lot of courage in just showing up to a meeting or Meghan Houle (34:08.255) Uh huh. Yeah. Meghan Houle (34:23.982) Mm-hmm. Mooch (34:31.477) walking up into a conversation with the courage to say, I wanna connect on a deeper level. And not everyone can meet you there, but I think that initial, I'm gonna get out of my own shit, I'm gonna put myself out there and I wanna connect beyond like, hey, how are you? What do you do for work? No one fucking cares. And I think the more that you can practice doing that and... Meghan Houle (34:37.195) Yeah. Mooch (34:56.809) I've had conversations where I'm like, hey, can we take this conversation deeper? And people are like, you're weird. And that's okay. Not everyone wants to go deep, but being able to put yourself out there has been really, I think that's kind of the key, right? Because if you put yourself out there and you're met with, yeah, you're kind of weird or that, I don't know, what do you wanna go deeper on? Meghan Houle (35:03.754) You're like, no, yeah. Right. Mooch (35:21.045) they might be in another conversation where now they're connecting the dots and saying like, hey, you should actually connect with Mooch because Mooch likes to have these like weird deep conversations. And it creates just like this knowingness within a community to, you know, connect dots, which I don't know, I think is so powerful, but there's a lot of confidence that goes into just putting yourself out there and practicing that on a day-to-day basis, whether it's like... Meghan Houle (35:24.663) Mmm. Meghan Houle (35:37.161) Uh huh. Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (35:45.407) Right. Mooch (35:49.873) saying hi to someone who is working at a Starbucks. Like that, it literally will build capacity to have open conversations, right? Holding the door for someone and saying like, hey, I hope you have a great day opening the door. That's the energy that you're putting out there that's gonna actually allow you to receive more of those conversations. Meghan Houle (35:56.61) do. Meghan Houle (36:05.874) Yeah, or in this Boston community where some of the studios are very great. Some people will just like run you over to like get to the door and like out on their way for their Starbucks latte. But like say hi to the person on the bike next to you. You never know who you're going to meet, right? Say hi to like your mate. Yeah. Mooch (36:21.725) Like, if anything, a fitness class is like a safe haven for people who don't want to have conversation because A, the music's really fucking loud. There's no lights. No one can see you anyway. So it's like, if you take your towel and whip someone next to you, think about the energy that you're actually putting out there to say like, hey, I'm open to like interacting here. You don't have to say shit. You literally just put the energy out that's saying like, hey, I see you. Right? Meghan Houle (36:28.993) Yeah. Yeah. Meghan Houle (36:37.951) Yeah? Yes. Meghan Houle (36:49.117) Mm-hmm. Mooch (36:50.289) I think there's something so special about the Boston fitness community for that reason. You could be, again, in a dark room and then nudge someone next to you and all of a sudden you're on a different level with those people. Now what it takes for the brave, courageous side of you is taking it a step further and being like, hey, thank you so much for whipping your towel at me, or it was so fun to ride next to you tonight. Like something so easy where you're taking that conversation outside of the studio. Meghan Houle (37:22.446) Because in that community, you're surrounded by everybody. Investors, lawyers, doctors, nurses. I mean, you could be looking for a new job in X, Y, and Z health care or this or PR marketing. And you're like, whoa, this is a crazy conversation. So yeah, you just have to show up for yourself. In some way, shape, or form. And I've really pushed my comfort zone of going to things alone, showing up and not knowing people, and just getting curious about others, and asking questions. And it's pretty magical. Mooch (37:28.353) Yeah. Mooch (37:32.489) and it just happens. Yup. Meghan Houle (37:52.11) So, I mean, as much as we really ride on the high highs of all the things, like there's a lot of low lows. How do you feel like you've really navigated some of those low lows in your lowest challenging moments? Because I know you've been through a lot too, just all around, right? With family and your dad and all of that, right? Mooch (38:06.273) Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's been like a really beautiful learning experience with myself. Different modalities and different seasons of life for sure. I think a lot of what, and even this Boston community, right, I think about Boston and how masculine the energy feels in terms of like, just go to the next thing, just go to the next thing, just go to the next thing. And we don't really hold space as much as we probably would like for the shit that feels. Meghan Houle (38:31.038) It's true, right? Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Meghan Houle (38:37.165) Mm. Mooch (38:39.137) heavy and shitty. And we notoriously as humans and as emotional beings, right, we notoriously steer away from pain or discomfort. And so much of the learning for me has been able to stay in the pain or discomfort, which honestly like started a lot within fitness of like, how far can my body go before I'm so fucking uncomfortable that I actually need to stop, right? In a healthy way, right? I'm not trying to like... Meghan Houle (39:04.873) Hmm... Mm-hmm. Mooch (39:07.481) run people over, run myself over, beat myself into the ground. But there is an element of seeing what your capacity is for pain and being able to endure it that I think for me has been a really interesting concept. I am now in this season of like, how do I navigate regulating my nervous system? Quite literally, because for so long it was like, go, to the point where like there wasn't any regulation of... Meghan Houle (39:27.562) Yeah. Right. Mooch (39:36.041) what actually needed to happen. So yes, I laugh about cold plunging, but quite literally that is a nervous system regulator, breath work, meditation, a lot of journaling, the standard modalities that I feel like are so trendy right now that we've had for fucking ever. And all of a sudden they're starting to get trendy and I don't even care that they're trending because they're actually supportive. So I'm here for this trend, but that's been around for- Meghan Houle (39:43.714) Yeah. Meghan Houle (39:59.274) Mm-hmm. Mooch (40:03.849) a long time. I've probably been journaling. I mean, I have read entries in my diary and I'm like, damn, Mooch was onto some journaling when she was six, seven, eight years old. Meghan Houle (40:12.854) Same. I remember. Oh yeah. Every night I was like writing in my little cat journal, obviously. It had a cat on it, but yeah. Mooch (40:18.397) Oh, great. Right. Yeah. And like, even through that's funny, even through like creative expression, right, I got into art. So when I was in high school, and in college, I did every single art class my high school offered. And then in college, I did like, I think I did like six or seven credits before they were like, Hey, are you going to be an art major? Or are you trying to like do something else? Right? So any creative expression, whether it's dance or Meghan Houle (40:34.894) That's awesome. Mooch (40:46.793) um, you know, drawing or friggin whatever, right? Planting. I'm like looking at all these plants in this apartment, but like, how can you express in a different way? And I think for me, that's been such a part of the healing process and the regulation that I've been looking for probably for a long time. Meghan Houle (40:53.202) Yeah. Meghan Houle (41:06.61) Oh, yeah, I mean, we have to take care of our nervous systems. I've manifested some crazy autoimmune things in my body over this past year of just, I think it started really crazy. And, you know, 2023 has felt interesting. You know, I guess there's definitely an energy, I feel like, around this new year of, like, let's go. Let's do it. Mooch (41:14.093) Sure. Yeah. Meghan Houle (41:35.094) What are you most excited about in building these two businesses and when do you feel? So I know one is like, you know, your brick and mortar is not until the end of the next year. But in terms of launching, are you doing new coaching programs? Like what is your next pivot with purpose and who are you working with within this community? Tell us about that. Mooch (41:50.549) Yep. So Catalyst, the company that is launching probably in the next two weeks, which is really exciting, is more supported. It's me and another business partner of mine that I actually met through the fitness base, which is really cool. Former CIO of a massive bank, really different perspective on life and business, which is exactly what I wanted. Meghan Houle (41:54.007) Mm-hmm. Yes, yeah Meghan Houle (42:04.878) awesome. Meghan Houle (42:15.758) Mm-hmm. Mooch (42:17.505) in terms of a partnership to be able to learn from each other and grow with each other and you know communicate in different ways. So super excited about that and I think one of the things that excites me most about building now another kind of virtual online company is doing it in a way that is balanced. My last company that I started was literally like full fucking send eat, sleep, breathe this company like. Meghan Houle (42:45.106) I remember, I see you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mooch (42:45.201) one track mind can't be involved anywhere else. And this one that I'm now building is very much so about the openness and the network and understanding like there is a balance between personal and professional and combining those two in a way that feels really aligned is something that I'm most excited about. I think for the brick and mortar that we're opening at the end of next year, hopefully like fall end of next year. The piece that I'm really excited about is putting myself in a very different place. Like right now we're opening the funding round for investors, which is new to me. Any virtual company that I've started has never needed or required any type of investment. So the investment piece is honestly so... I don't even know how to explain it. I'm just feeling like this massive expansion in terms of getting uncomfortable. Meghan Houle (43:26.905) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (43:43.423) Yeah. Mooch (43:43.517) and doing it in a way that is supporting my growth. I think having all of these little tools for nervous system regulation is really important to me and balancing the two through modalities that I've felt like have really been able to reset me is so crucial and I'm just excited to do it all over again with a totally different perspective. Meghan Houle (44:03.39) Yeah. Right. And new people. Now, will people be able to work with you one-on-one in your new community program? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mooch (44:09.213) Yeah, so I do have one-on-one clients right now, which is really fun. I work with people anywhere from six months to a year. So these partnerships are really deep. They're like, hey, we're actually going in for a year. Like, we're going to really, really see like a full fiscal year of your business. This is all business and I would say primarily business, but a lot of life coaching through it as well, which I'm sure you know. Meghan Houle (44:21.122) Oh, wow. Okay. Meghan Houle (44:35.935) Okay. Yeah. Mooch (44:37.769) like career coaching, there's so much of like the confidence and the emotional intelligence that go into making sure that these people are successful. And business is just a gateway to see like what's missing from your life quite literally. So a lot of the overlap there is really cool to see. But yeah, I'm only working with six to eight people for the next year. And excited to like really see how this business unfolds for them. Meghan Houle (44:46.623) Mm-hmm. Mooch (45:06.909) being a part of that in a totally different way is really special. Meghan Houle (45:10.238) Yeah. What are some misconceptions do you feel like are out there around coaching? Mooch (45:15.433) Coaching gets a bad rep right now. It's getting a bad rep right now. It's really interesting. And I honestly, I understand why, right? I think it's not, and there are coaches out there that have their own coaching style, right? I totally respect it. Like you do you, that's not for me. I'm not one to want to be relied on. Meghan Houle (45:17.278) Right? Yeah. Meghan Houle (45:25.646) Well, cause it's not regulated mooch. Like it's just, yeah. Meghan Houle (45:33.844) Uh huh. Mm-hmm. Mooch (45:41.705) Like I think a lot of these coaching programs are really banking on the fact that like, clients will be enabled so hard that they don't actually have the tools to do it on their own. Meghan Houle (45:51.446) to do the work, right? Because we're not here to really tell you, it's like to guide you. And that's how people look for that quick fix, right? Yeah. Mooch (45:54.501) No, I love you. Yes. And I love working with people. Every one of my clients that I've ever worked with, I have probably a personal relationship now with. I am so game to be a part of your life beyond coaching. I love it. I adore it. And it honestly is really special to me. What's not special is I want you to outgrow what I coach. And I think there are a lot of coaching worlds right now that... Meghan Houle (46:05.87) Mm-hmm. Mooch (46:23.741) It's almost like it's fear-based because they don't want their clients to get to the point where they don't need them anymore. Um, and it's a really interesting concept to me because isn't that why we're doing it so that they evolve and that they elevate? Like, I just, I don't know. I just don't really align with that. Um, so I think it's getting a bad rap. I think there is also something that you alluded to before with like. Meghan Houle (46:30.667) Interesting. Meghan Houle (46:42.296) Yeah. Mooch (46:47.677) you know, oh, well, I invested in something and it actually wasn't what I thought it was going to be. Right. There's such an emphasis on like marketing and sales. When it comes to coaching that when you actually get into a program, the product doesn't align with like what they marketed or sold you. And I think that's creating, you know, a misconception around like, well, coaching's kind of a fluke. And I don't blame these people who have these experiences who are like, what the fuck did I just spend my money on? Right. Meghan Houle (46:52.259) Right. Meghan Houle (47:03.246) Hmm. Meghan Houle (47:11.902) Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah. Mooch (47:15.777) But it does make it harder to get back into that scene. I've worked with coaches that, you know, or in masterminds where I'm like, well, that really wasn't what you said it was gonna be, but I'm still finding value through it. And that's on the client, right? That is 100% on the client. If you sign up for something that is not what you're sold, is there a way for you to find something that is worth valued and is supporting you in a way that maybe you didn't see, right? Because... Meghan Houle (47:20.13) Mm-hmm. Right. Meghan Houle (47:27.458) right. Yeah. Meghan Houle (47:38.318) Mm-hmm. Mooch (47:44.041) A lot of times what we think we need isn't actually what we need, it's what we want. And what we need is actually available within just opening your gaze to something else, if that makes sense. Meghan Houle (47:54.594) Hmm, no, absolutely. And no, and I think it's navigating and hopefully anyone thinking about working with a coach, and I'm sure you do this, like have a discovery call. Like it's just gotta feel really good and it shouldn't feel forced. And I don't know, you just go on the vibes, right? Buy on vibes, you know? And the goals that you wanna get to basically, like is this straight person for you? Right, yeah. Mooch (48:07.393) Yeah. Mooch (48:14.045) No, totally. And I think it's... It's mutual. It's a relationship. It's like, it's got to feel good for the coach just as much as it's got to feel good for the client. Like, there has to be a mutual understanding of like, yo, we're going in this together. And it's not going to be easy. We're probably going to have conversations that piss you off and piss me off and do whatever, right? But there has to be that equal understanding and that equal respect, for sure. Meghan Houle (48:25.57) Yeah. Meghan Houle (48:29.794) Right? Meghan Houle (48:35.351) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (48:40.838) Yeah, it's so magical. I mean, I don't think I would be here now if I hadn't started working with a coach in the pandemic and then have done so much in between. And I've changed, then you change coaches and you change goals. But it's such a meaningful investment. So I'm so excited to see all that you are creating. And you know me, I love a good business building, branding, all the things. But let's dive into deeper mooch before I... Mooch (49:01.737) Yeah. Meghan Houle (49:07.654) Let you go, but I'm going to ask you some more fun questions. In someone listening in that may be like sitting in a crappy nine-five job, being navigated in a toxic work environment, which has come up lately for me of like, my boss sucks, everybody sucks, I'm crying at work every day. What advice would you give to someone that is like really struggling right now to make that pivot with purpose? Like what maybe is one thing they could do or like... Mooch (49:10.199) Yeah. Meghan Houle (49:34.842) share some of that mooch inspiration, which I know you do on your podcast too, which we'll talk about. But yeah, what advice would you give? Yeah. Mooch (49:37.405) Yeah. Oh, I love them. So you're not having these feelings for nothing, right? Like if you're sitting and crying at work every day, why? Like give that space to that feeling and that emotion and your answer is in there. I often say that a lot of the things that we're trying to find in this life, we already knew it's about being or being reminded or remembering them. So your body's telling you something. If you are so out of alignment and feel so shitty all of the time, listen to that. And also know that not making a change is just as much of a choice and an action as making a change. So if you are actively sitting in the space of discomfort and not loving whatever job or hating your boss, you're choosing into that, which I think triggers a lot of people, but that's the reality of it. Like that is your choice. that you are showing up in that space and that you are continuously walking through those doors and feeling fucking miserable and wanna like strangle everyone, right? Know that there's an opposite side of that choice that might be your answer. So I don't know if that's tangible enough, but listen to those feelings and maybe ask them without judgment, like why is this happening? What's actually upsetting me? What is actually at the root of... how I'm feeling right now. Meghan Houle (51:05.898) Yeah, and there's probably multiple things there, but we have to sit down with ourselves and face those hard truths. Right? Can't blame it on everybody else. Like this is our world to live in, you know? Yeah, yeah. Mooch (51:17.257) It's our world, it's our life, and it's our responsibility to actually make the choices that align best for us. I think something that I've heard in terms of the nine to five world is like, well, I don't want to upset my boss or what are they going to do when I leave? Dude, you know that you are replaceable in any certain situation. Just know that. And it's not your responsibility. It's not your responsibility to figure out how the business at a whole... Meghan Houle (51:22.514) Yeah. Meghan Houle (51:36.45) Yeah. Mooch (51:46.189) is going to fill your role. So, yeah. Meghan Houle (51:48.618) And I always say too, well, not to interrupt, but I'm like, do you think if your boss gets their call for a dream job or anybody else in your team, do you think that they're thinking about you? No. Hell no. So why are you like focusing your decisions on other people's like emotional, like what ifs? No. So your podcast, because I know you share so many, so many juicy nuggets, topics, like what was the inspiration to like, Mooch (51:58.059) Oh Mooch (52:05.869) Totally. Yep. Mooch (52:13.109) Yeah. Meghan Houle (52:16.93) bring this podcast to life? Because I know you've had a podcast before, more where there was collaborations, but now this is you. Was it recurring themes with people in your DMs? And you're just like, no, we need to talk about, we need to talk about these things. Yeah. Mooch (52:26.677) Yeah, that's so funny. Yeah, no, I think that the it's funny the idea for this specific podcast actually sprouted from one of my berries causes. When I used to teach at berries, my biggest thing was like, can you add point one? Because in terms of life, when you take that idea of like just adding point one to your treadmill, you are taking a next step, you are actively choosing something a little bit Meghan Houle (52:39.284) Mmm. Mooch (52:54.233) more challenging, you were choosing something a little bit greater than what you're currently in. And that was kind of the premise for Point One. So the Point One podcast is really built on very short episodes, unless we have guests, because I love chatting with all of my friends on that. But these little short episodes of very mini little snippets that support you in taking a next step and taking the next Point One. And I think as I've really like... Meghan Houle (53:09.902) and I'll see you guys next time. Mooch (53:22.837) just kind of had fun with this podcast. It's really interesting to see some of the people that had started listening from the beginning and how they've been taking all these little point ones and they reflect back and they're like, wait, I'm at like two full points now. Like this actually is lining up and is supporting me and I had no idea. And it's kind of in that beauty of like the surprise of how far you've actually come when you just add a little each time. And it's not necessarily about more. Like this podcast isn't like, do this. for today, like add this to your thing. Like sometimes it's about removing and sometimes it's about finding clarity and these next steps that you can take is really what the point one is built on. So every episode has some type of action that you can take on a weekly basis that will be supportive in changing your life. Meghan Houle (54:12.146) Yeah, no, there are such beautiful episodes. And are you a big resolutions person? Like, are you so, I feel like we're big goals, but what are your intentions? Like, what are you setting for next year? What's your word of next year? Do you do resolutions? Like, take us home with like juicy goals. Yeah, me neither. I hate them. Mooch (54:27.461) I typically don't do resolutions, but I do. And I'm doing this practice here in the next probably week and a half. But I pick a word for the year and my word is built on a vision. And usually those visions come through either a breath work or a meditation. So it's very much so like I am surrendering to every single thing. Meghan Houle (54:34.062) Mm hmm. Yeah. Mooch (54:51.977) and I'm going into this space where I'm kind of in that theta brain wave space where I'm somewhere between sleeping and not, and I'm in a very deep form of meditation that allows me to drop into like, what does inner me need? Because it's so easy to do a vision board and it's so easy to come up with goals and it's so easy to do all of these things that feel like we're taking action. But I think for me, what I've learned over the last couple of years is like, How do I take less action to actually find what it is that's coming for me and gonna be supportive for this year. From there, yeah, fuck yeah. Let's make vision boards, let's do all this, but let's drop into truly what is within us that we already have the answer to, that we're just being reminded of to then go create. Meghan Houle (55:32.398) Yeah. Meghan Houle (55:40.654) Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, and I do think there's so much power in setting that intention and vision. I remember my vision really coming into, like, I think it was 2021, where we're starting to get back in person, like, you know, starting to do things. And I'm like, okay, over these next two years, like, I really want to make new friends. Like, I need to, like, expand my reach and my network. And now, you know, we've got all kinds of things built and all of it. But I think that intention is there. And then you should be excited about putting energy behind that for whatever you're looking to build. for whatever the future is holding. But I think that is, yeah, it's like, what do you want out of this? And like, what do you want for yourself? And why, right? Yeah. We really need to, I know, no, we really need to. Yeah, that intention came from, I think I did like one of Ali's like sound healing and it's so magical, like to get yourself in like the state, like you said, breath work or something where these things really come. Mooch (56:18.761) Right. Yeah. No, I love it. Maybe we should do some like witchy shit in the next couple of weeks. And really just live. Mooch (56:35.877) Yeah, you're like, why was I thinking about purple socks and making myself a cup of tea? And then all of a sudden I got this word expansion. Like what just happened? Meghan Houle (56:43.054) Right? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, before I let you go, what's one non-negotiable in your routine? Like every day, beyond working out, because I feel like that's something that's so consistent, but is there anything that you really love to do or that you set like a fierce boundary of like, no one's messing with this on a daily? Mm-hmm. Mooch (56:52.406) Yeah. Mooch (56:59.409) Yeah, honestly, it truly is movement. And movement for me doesn't always necessarily mean like destroying myself at the gym. Today was a destroy myself day and I loved every second of it. But for me, movement allows me to really set an intention for the day. And that is a non-negotiable. Like I want to know not where I need to go or what I need to do or who I need to talk to. But for me, it's like, Meghan Houle (57:03.214) Yeah. Meghan Houle (57:09.422) Mm-hmm. Mooch (57:26.669) Who am I being today and who do I get to be today that I actually am blessed to put my feet on the floor when I wake up and choose whatever intention I'm going to lead with today. And that is definitely like a fun little very simple process that you can quite literally say who do I get to be today and live your day through that. Have the little reminders on your phone like when I had started doing more intention practices, I've had I actually kept some of them. I used to set alarms based on the day. So like at noon, my alarm would go off and be like, whatever my intention was for the day would pop up on the bottom of the phone. And I'm like, oh yeah, come back to it, come back to it. So, some type of intention setting, whether it's again, choosing a word for the day or choosing what the vision for the day looks like or feels like is really important to me. Meghan Houle (58:05.806) Mm-hmm. Meghan Houle (58:17.902) Oh, I love that so much. And I credit you to like morphing me into this morning person where if you're Boston, Mondays with Mooch, BuzzFox Studios, where I know I come in there Mondays with some heavy stuff, with some big weeks, big things on the calendar for the week or something for that Monday. I'm like, oh my God, this is terrible. You work out, you kind of leave with like a different pep in your step. So I get it, but I know, I just think bottom line, like move your body. Mooch (58:28.47) Yeah, we love it! Meghan Houle (58:47.406) get out, find that harmony and things you enjoy, while you're putting all this like energy into your business and all of it, it's just so important. So how can people find you and work with you? And I guess we'll be on the lookout for this like big launch, but what's one of your favorite platforms to like be on and how can people kind of find you and engage with you? Yeah. Mooch (58:47.564) Yeah. Mooch (59:03.916) I know, crazy. Mooch (59:09.825) So you can obviously find me at the Point One podcast because we're there also every Monday, Monday mornings, Liz episode. And Megan's on there, so we should share, I should actually reshare your episode too because I loved it. But, and then Instagram, honestly, that's usually my platform of choice. And it's really fun to connect with different people there. So if you're over there and you haven't introduced yourself or reached out. Meghan Houle (59:13.55) Yes. It's all juicy content, so it's like free coaching with Mooch. Yeah. We will. Yeah. Mooch (59:35.821) please know that in putting that energy out into the world. It's seen and it's heard and it doesn't go unnoticed. So if you're looking for those deeper connections and it helps to know that you can reach out and not have to say anything about deeper connections and just reach out and start having conversations, obviously I don't wanna speak for Megan, but I'm sure Megan's open to it. So reach out to one of us. And Instagram for me is usually the easiest. Meghan Houle (01:00:02.702) Yeah, well, I think we laugh knowing what's in my DM, cats and apparel spritz memes and stuff. I'm like my on brand, I really need a pivot myself next year. I'm an alcoholic like crazy cat lady. Great. This is a cat lady that love spritzes and we know a good wine. But no, you are so incredible. I mean, I know we could just talk for days and days, but we got stuff to do. But I really, really appreciate you being a part of my world and always supporting me. Mooch (01:00:11.213) I'm going to go. Mooch (01:00:15.4) A cat lady who loves drinking after all. Meghan Houle (01:00:31.982) and being able to collaborate with you on so many different levels. I remember listening to you years ago on podcasts and for somebody who has, yeah, built confidence over the years to show up to say hi to you. I feel like we've had this very organic evolution of our relationship. Just freakin' start talking to people. That's like boom, mic drop moment. Get out there, make new friends, happy new year. Mooch (01:00:39.856) Oh, I love it. Mooch (01:00:48.409) I love it. Yeah. Mooch (01:00:55.34) Yeah. Meghan Houle (01:00:56.27) Can't wait for all that you're building. So thank you so much for being here with us today and wishing you so much success. It's gonna be amazing. Yes. Thanks. Mooch (01:00:59.821) Thank you. Likewise, likewise, so much fun. Thank you for having me.