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Pivot with Purpose with Meghan Houle Season 2 Ep 10

Lynn Power has spent much of her 30 year career running and transforming agency brands. She has expertise in transforming organizations from top to bottom, including capabilities, organizational structure, talent and culture.

She recently left the big agency world to create Masami, a premium, clean haircare brand, which launched in February 2020. Prior to her entrepreneurial move, Lynn was the CEO of J Walter Thompson, New York. Responsible for the  flagship office of WPP’s $1.5 billion iconic agency, the oldest advertising agency in the world. Throughout her career, Lynn has had great fortune of working with some of the world’s most well-known brands, including Listerine, American Express, Clinique, Hershey’s, Pizza Hut, and Wild Turkey.

Lynn believes that business success relies on building a team that respects and nurtures ideas, as well as the people who create them. She believes in moving at the speed of culture, eliminating barriers and helping women find their voices

Connect with her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynn-power-02b8904/

Find out more about Masami Haircare: http://www.lovemasami.com/

Follow on social media (Instagram): @lovemasamihair and @lynnpowered

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FC Podcasts: [00:00:00] Pivot with Purpose, a podcast that highlights the unique stories of professionals that pivoted their careers to align with their work lives and personal lives more purposefully and with more joy.

Pivot with Purpose is hosted by Meghan Houle, a globally accredited career and business coach and creator of the Meghan Houle method. 

Meghan Houle: [00:00:33] Welcome back to the Pivot with Purpose podcast. I’m your host, Meghan Houle and in this episode, we talk to Lynn Power, CEO and co-founder of the direct-to-consumer clean beauty premium hair care brand, Masami.

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Meghan Houle: [00:01:21] Lynn has spent much of her 30 year career running and transforming agency brands. She has expertise in transforming organizations from top to bottom, including capabilities, organizational structure, talent and culture.

She recently left the big agency world to create Masami, a premium, clean haircare brand, which launched in February 2020. Prior to her entrepreneurial move, Lynn was the CEO of J Walter Thompson, New York. Responsible for the  flagship office of WPP’s $1.5 billion iconic agency, the oldest advertising agency in the world. Throughout her career, Lynn has had great fortune of working with some of the world’s most well-known brands, including Listerine, American Express, Clinique, Hershey’s, Pizza Hut, and Wild Turkey.

Lynn believes that business success relies on building a team that respects and nurtures ideas, as well as the people who create them. She believes in moving at the speed of culture, eliminating barriers and helping women find their voices. Lynn Power! Welcome to the Pivot with Purpose podcast. Thanks for joining us today.

Lynn Power: [00:02:31] Thank you, Meghan. It’s really great to be here! 

Meghan Houle: [00:02:34] Yay! Well, I’m so excited to dive into our conversation. As I know for you, coming from a long standing career as an advertising executive to your entrepreneurial pivot, where now leading some D to C brands, we’re excited to share what those successful pivots have looked like for you and your story with our listeners.

But always before we get started, I’d love to ease into our conversation and share little inside, look into our guests, maybe what you love? Some of their other passions beyond work to get us started. So tell us, Lynn, what are you enjoying doing this summer? I hope you can make sure to take time for breaks. 

You better be taking breaks! 

Lynn Power: [00:03:14] Oh, I know. Breaks are so important. I agree with you because otherwise you get burned out and that’s no fun, but I’m actually really enjoying my entrepreneurial life. I know it sounds sort of lame to say, I like to work when you work with people that you love and people you trust, it makes it fun.

 I’ve been really enjoying it, but I will give you a real answer. I’ve been trying to be healthier, right? I’m 54. I started this career pivot later in life, stuff starts to get creaky! And you just got to stay on top of it. So I’ve been doing yoga and I’ve been swimming and that’s been really quite helpful, I will say, although I’m sore all the time. 

Meghan Houle: [00:03:58] Well swimming is hard. Swimming that’s a good workout, but that’s definitely tough. And what a great time, do you have a pool or a lake or the beach? Like where’s your swim?  

Lynn Power: [00:04:09] When I’m not on the East Coast, I’m on the West Coast and I’m in Palm Springs where we have a pool and that makes it just super easy.

Now, of course, it’s been 117 degrees there, but the pool is nice. That’s been a nice routine and then I don’t feel so guilty about a glass of wine later. It all kind of balances out. And I feel like, to your point earlier, self care to kind of do things to sort of recharge and reset yourself. And that’s so important for anyone.

Meghan Houle: [00:04:43] Well, thank you for that. And I think at any age we creak, Lynn, so I’m right there with you, 

Lynn Power: [00:04:51] Well, it does get worse as you get a little older just saying, 

Meghan Houle: [00:04:54] But staying active, it really helps. That’s awesome. Well good for you and love that you’re in Palm Springs.

We’ll have to come out there and visit. I will definitely enjoy some wine with you. On that we could talk about wine for like hours here, but this is a pivot podcast. Onto your pivot story where  so many career professionals are truly, always looking for that potential next pivot growing their careers.

I mean, it’s the heart and soul of what we talk about here on the podcast. You’ve had a quite impressive career journey. Talk to us a little bit about where you started off in your career in advertising and how do you feel like your experience with that led to the successful pivot into entrepreneurialship?

Lynn Power: [00:05:32] Yeah, I think in my case, Feels in hindsight, at least like a somewhat natural evolution.  I started in advertising back in the late  eighties, God, I’m older than I realized. And I started as a receptionist at an ad agency and really loved the culture and loved this idea that you could use creativity as a business tool.

And I also love the diversity of working on lots of different businesses when you work in advertising, because you just never get bored. I mean, I started and I worked on Pizza Hut and then I went and worked on American Express. Right, right, 

Meghan Houle: [00:06:10] Remember how good Pizza Hut used to be? Pizza Hut’s probably still good. But remember like the breadsticks, like, the Friday nights, it’s like, that’s what you look forward to. 

Lynn Power: [00:06:18] Well, it’s funny because back then when I worked on it, they were sort of going through a crisis of trying to figure out how to reinvent themselves, which they’ve been on for 30 years. They still haven’t quite figured it out, but nonetheless.

 Pizza Hut, and then I got to work on American Express and Illinois Tourism. And then I worked on P&G and L’Oreal and Gillette, and just interesting brands. I got to launch a lot of brands. I got to meet a lot of celebrities. Like you just do interesting things in advertising. And I liked the pace.

It’s fast. You work hard, but you get stuff done. And you learn a lot because if you really act like a sponge, you can absorb a lot about your client’s business. Which, obviously is helping me now immensely because you really pick up a lot of go to market strategy. A good client will share a lot with the agency.

You really do get a peek under the hood of what’s going on in the business. And I am a sponge. I love that. And I’ve always sort of liked digging in and after many years in advertising, I’ve worked my way up to be running agencies. I ran an agency, Arnold, in New York and it was a smaller creative agency and it was great.

I really loved it until they brought a new CEO in and that wasn’t fun because he was not great. But then I went and I was the CEO of J Walter Thompson, New York. J Walter Thompson, if anyone’s watched Mad Men you’ll have heard of J Walter Thompson. It was, I was going to say it is, but it’s no longer around because it merged with another brand.

It was the oldest ad agency in the world, over 150 years old  one of the largest.  I kind of worked my way up to this position and then I realized, I did it for four years, I really wasn’t enjoying it. Because all the stuff that I talked about that I loved about the business, I wasn’t doing. I was basically an administrator,  dealing with HR issues.

We had a big public lawsuit, I was dealing with the legal team quite regularly. I was just dealing with a lot of, not so fun things, at least for me. Finance meetings constantly. From there it just felt like why am I doing this for other people and not enjoying it?

I can take all this experience and do something that will build my own brand which is easier said than done. But nonetheless, that is the journey that I set  off on. 

Meghan Houle: [00:08:43] There you are now.  Thank you for sharing all of that and you’re right. Being a sponge, absorbing things seeing the opportunities and then saying like, I’m going to do this on my own.

 Where did the beauty side of the business come into your pivot? I understand it’s such a coveted industry. Why beauty and is that moment when you knew it was time to leave the agency world that really kind of having that urge to jump off and do something on your own? 

Lynn Power: [00:09:07] Well, it was a little bit more of the universe intervening, because I had already made the decision to leave. And I actually had started doing some consulting with startups when I left, like, right like the week I left it just happened that I met a company that was like, we want to hire you. And I was like, all right, I just left, it’s great.

It’s great. I started doing work with startups to really get back to my roots of helping businesses really make an impact. Right? And seeing the impact as opposed to working with some of these large companies where they’re very bureaucratic.  You make suggestions, recommendations,

you don’t see them for years. And by the time they do them, they’re out of date, but I had worked on beauty, a bunch throughout my career. It’s like, I kept going back to it. I’d done L’Oreal I’d worked on Clinique. I’d work on Vichy, La Roche-Posay, Nexus, Noxema, some really iconic beauty brands, but of course now with my clean beauty hat, many of those actually had bad stuff in them.

Now look at those brands and I’m like, oh, they’re just toxic. But I loved the beauty industry because it’s this interesting blend of rational and emotional there’s the rational cell, which is the proof, the efficacy, the ingredient, the science, whatever you want to call it.

And then there’s the emotional side, which is very much like the hope in a bottle, right? This idea of transforming yourself or just bringing out your inner beauty. And I really liked that sort of duality. And I’m a beauty junkie too. It doesn’t look like it now, but I am, I used a lot products that my cabinet is overflowing with stuff.

 I’ve always gravitated to the industry. I’ve worked on a lot of haircare also. And then it just happened that my husband was working with my co-founder.  And I hadn’t met James before, but James had basically pulled my husband aside and said, Hey, I’ve been working on these haircare formulations for 10 years.

And I think I have them ready to go to market, but I don’t know what to do. And Bill was like, well, I don’t know anything about beauty, but my wife does. He connected us. I was very cynical about it because a lot of the people Bill has introduced me to in the past have not worked out so well. I was sorta like, fine.

I’ll meet with them. I just figured  it’s just a waste of a couple hours, but whatever. He came over to my apartment for dinner with his husband, Masa. Masa is our muse, and so hence our name Masami. And they love my dogs, which was always a good sign cause I’m a dog person for sure. And if anyone loves dogs I’m like, okay, they’re good in my book. And actually- 

Meghan Houle: [00:11:55] Yes, animal lovers. Yes. We love all animal lovers. Absolutely. 

Lynn Power: [00:11:59] Love animal lovers, but it’s actually more important that my dogs like them. Right?

Because my dogs, they are good at sensing like the good ones and the bad. Yeah. They know. Yeah. Anyways, my dogs liked them and I was like, that’s good. And then they told me the story of basically how they’ve been working on these formulations, really James, over a decade. He found this ingredient in Masa’s hometown in Japan in not sushi, which is this Japanese ocean botanical.

It’s a seaweed that’s super nutritious and they eat it, but they use it in their skincare and haircare, they grind it up and it acts like a sponge to bring hydration. And hydration is just one of the most essential needs for your body, for your skin, for your hair. And so James started playing around with this ingredient and he found a chemist in Chicago who happens to be just absolutely amazing.

 And he had kind of figured out how to create these clean formulas without the sulfates, without the parabens, without the phthalates, but adding in good ingredients and still being really high performing and I was kind of blown away. Cause that’s really hard to do. Like I’ve worked with large companies, corporations that couldn’t figure it out.

  I was the benefit of his 10 years of work because when we met, we’re very complimentary. I mean, I don’t know how to make haircare formulations and he doesn’t know how to do the stuff I do. The branding, the go-to-market strategy, the digital all the marketing distribution, et cetera. It’s actually been a fantastic partnership.

 He gave me products to try. I love them. We decided to go into business together. And from there we’ve been off and running. 

Meghan Houle: [00:13:38] Oh, I love that story. Masami, I mean, that is where you’re at now,  and we’re going to dive into that pivot because I want to  ask you a little bit more about the brand and all that you’re running, but in the spirit of the podcast, I like to leave a little teaser and then we go to a quick break.

 I’m going to ask you yes or no question  and we’ll go from there. Are ready? Okay, so yes or no: thinking  and knowing you have so much passion now for where you are and throughout your career. Do you think it’s important for someone looking to career pivot to love or have passion for a brand or a product they’re aligning with?

Lynn Power: [00:14:12] Yes, absolutely. 

Meghan Houle: [00:14:13] Perfect. Well, thank you for that. And we’ll be going to a quick break and we will pick this up when we get back.

 Lynn, before the break, you said yes. Why do you think it’s important for someone to have love or passion for product or brand they’re joining really beyond checking the boxes from a business or skill set point of view, which I know is also important?

Lynn Power: [00:14:47] Yeah. I mean, I think it’s absolutely critical because first of all, you’re invested, right?

Like, if you’re joining an entrepreneurial team or frankly any business it’s a huge part of your life. I wish it was eight hours a day, but most of the time it’s like 12 hours a day. And why would you want to do that for a brand that you didn’t love or believe in?

 I just feel like the idea of aligning your passion with your work is it just makes it easier. It makes life easier. It just makes it more fun. Like I said, it doesn’t feel as much like work if you’re diving into the category and the competitors and just trying to understand the business, if it’s already a business that you’re interested in, you know?

Meghan Houle: [00:15:31] I’ve been having this debate this week, as you know, working also as a full-time recruiter and doing some coaching with careers and professionals, if you can’t articulate your why, if you can’t get beyond a brand, sure you can check the boxes.

But I think at the end of the day, that’s really what seals the deal of getting hired aligning yourself with product or a mission that you really appreciate and we all work so hard. Right? You want to work for something that you really enjoy.  Would you hire someone who you feel like could make your brand a bunch of money, but they couldn’t articulate why they wanted to work for you? 

Lynn Power: [00:16:05] That would be hard because I mean, they’ve got to have a reason cause the other side of it is like, if somebody’s coming to work on my team, it’s got to be a mutually beneficial relationship.

Right? I want certain things out of them, but then I also want to understand what they need, because if they’re only gonna come in and do the job for three months and then leave, well that’s not good. It’s almost worse because then I’m starting over. So I always feel like somebody’s gotta be able to articulate why they want to be there, what they want to get out of it, what they aspire to do, because then if I’m like, wow, that’s really aligned with what I’m doing.

And now that I know that your desire is to get into whatever content strategy or digital acquisition, I can start to push work towards you that meets those goals. But if I don’t know because the person can’t articulate, like why they’re even there, then it’s like then it’s hard because then you don’t know if you’re actually creating something where they’re going to be satisfied in their learning and their growing.

 I’d much rather have those conversations upfront before you get like in it, and then you realize, oh, maybe it’s not the best fit, you know? 

Meghan Houle: [00:17:17] Right. Yeah. You’re checking the boxes, but everything has to align. So tell us more about where you’re at, your current business as clean beauty, direct to consumer haircare offering.

 I know you talked a little bit about how you got involved, but tell us more about the brand story and what you guys are up to. 

Lynn Power: [00:17:32] As you said, clean hair care. We have this Japanese ocean botanical called Mekabu. The cool thing about is it gives you a weightless hydration, it doesn’t weigh your hair down, but it solves your biggest hair issue, which is hydration. So, we launched at New York Fashion Week in February of 2020. And it was interesting. And this is another thing about career pivot is that working in a corporate environment, it’s pretty predictable. I mean, yes, there are client fires and there are always things that happen,

but your job in general is pretty predictable. Working in an entrepreneurial environment is not because who would have seen obviously what happened with COVID and a big part of our business plan revolved around salons, which were closed. So for someone like me, who’s pretty type A control, I had to really learn to let go and to try to just control the things I could, which was a very small amount of things. I can control my content. I control my customer experience. I can control our messaging, but I can’t make salons open up, you know what I mean?

So, having to take a step back and kind of have empathy for what everyone else is going through. As much as I’m trying to grow my business, other people are just trying to stay in business. Right? That’s part of it too. I definitely think like you just have to sort of let go a bit and just be open to, we’re talking about career pivot, but business pivot too. Like basically whatever comes your way, you got to be flexible and be able to kind of deal with it and then move on. Because we had also, we had things happen that I would have never predicted, like not good things either. Like we had packaging that was delayed by months

stuck on a boat because of COVID, couldn’t get into the US like there were just lots of those kinds of issues where you just literally go, oh my God, no, not another thing like that. And like I said, there’s really nothing you can do about it. You just have to kind of like, this is where the yoga and the swimming really helps, 

Meghan Houle: [00:19:45] Right. Take deep breaths and then focus on what you can control. Absolutely. Do some self-care. What else do you love most about being an entrepreneur? 

Lynn Power: [00:19:55] Well I love the flexibility of not having to go into an office and working the hours I want to work. And if I want to take a hike in the middle of the day, I can go take a hike and just being able to just do stuff.

And I have now come to the conclusion in my old age that blending my work and my personal life works for me in a much better way than compartmentalizing or even balancing. People talk about that, which I find is a very elusive term. But when I say blending, I mean, like, I work with my friends.

I drag my kids into my business. My daughter helps me actually. I have another business, which is a luxury bee powered home fragrance company. My daughter’s helping me with that. It’s been nice to have that kind of blending because it makes both sides easier. If that makes sense. 

Meghan Houle: [00:20:52] And becomes a family affair. We had another entrepreneurial spirit like you on the podcast this season who has kind of pulled her kids into a business and you get them like working and appreciating work at a young age.

I think it’s important. When they see their parents really committing and loving what they do. It sets some good foundations in them as well and yes, we love the flexibility.  Not everybody has that, but I think a little bit last year,  some of us working from home were like, oh, we can take a break during the day or get outside and walk and its important.

 As we said in the beginning, take those breaks. But what other brands are you working with? I know you just mentioned  the bee powered candle, which I love, and I feel like you’ve got a cult following there too. But any other brands you’re working with that you’re really excited about?

 Tell us about some of your other ventures? 

Lynn Power: [00:21:38] Well one of the cool things that we’ve done over the last year is we’ve partnered with other like-minded brands.  I guess you could say it’s a pragmatic marketing tactic, but at the same time, it’s a strategic one because is a lot of us, small business owners, female founders, India brands, we’re all in the same boat. There’s a bunch of brands now that I know that have launched right around the time we did. And we’re all kind of dealing with the same stuff. Why not try to help each other? The cool thing is like I found a bunch of brands that have led to more brands that have led to more partnerships and not all of them have been awesome, but  90% have been absolutely great. 

 And we found brands that share our values. Brands that embrace diversity inclusivity, like we’re gender neutral, which to me is like just a more modern way to market your brand. We’re very much about ocean and sustainability.  There’s a brand right now that we’re partnering with called Acess79.

They’re awesome. They’re a fine jewelry brand that’s sustainable.  They work with a lot of female designers. Their materials are all ethically sourced and it’s very much sort of a customized experience. And it’s all about kind of like, don’t wait for somebody to buy you a bracelet or whatever you want, just do it, get it for yourself.

 I just really like that. We’ve been working with them and, when I say working with them, like, we’ll do a giveaway. We’ll do interviews like live streaming blog posts share each other’s discount codes.

 It is nice. It’s all stuff that like, it doesn’t cost anything. And I just think there’s this, I know it’s going to sound a little cheesy, but, but karmic generosity, where if you just sort of have the spirit of going into it, not thinking of what you’re going to get out of it, but thinking of how you can help the other brand.

It’ll come back and you’re going to end up feeling really good about that partnership. We’ve got a bunch and we work with Romer skincare a lot. They are another gender neutral, simple, clean skincare brand that now I have my kids using it’s great. And there’s another one called The Sexiest Beauty.

Oh my God.

Meghan Houle: [00:24:01] I can’t wait to look up all these, we’ll have to link them as well. Yeah. 

Lynn Power: [00:24:05] Yeah. But they make the craziest best lip mask, like ever, ever. I’m looking them up after this. Oh my God. I love this product. And I’ve said to the founder, like, I’m going to have to just buy like a case of it because. If you ever changed the formula or, 

Meghan Houle: [00:24:25] Yeah, you’re like, its not going to be the same!

Lynn Power: [00:24:27] Yeah, it’s really, really good. I love that product. Then I’ve got this other brand that we’ve been working with called impact naturals, which is a CBD supplement brand. Yeah. Cool. Oh my God. Cause I have trouble sleeping now. Yup. Me too. And this is the, I’ve tried a lot of different sleep tricks.

And a lot of different supplements and products like gummies and the THC stuff and whatever, but the, these impact naturals sleep, their CBD. They actually work really well and I don’t have any weird, like with a lot of the other products, I wake up with like a dry mouth or I’d wake up like four hours later.

This product is like, it just feels clean. Like you just don’t even feel it. It just works.  I’ve been now I’m giving it to everyone I know. Cause everyone I know has trouble sleeping these days I feel like.

Meghan Houle: [00:25:22] It’s hard to shut down our brains, especially owning businesses and working  I feel like we’re connected more than ever.

 It’s tough to shut down if you don’t have a good nighttime routine, usually I don’t. And then you lay awake and those are the best times where ideas come to my mind. I’m like, geez, no, just let me sleep. Oh, I can’t wait to check that out. 

Lynn Power: [00:25:41] But you’re right, it’s like, you want to shut down, but then to your point, your brain is still going, I think sleep is so important that like I’ve tried to just really prioritize getting a good night’s sleep. And this has worked for me. 

 Meghan Houle: [00:25:53] It’s so beautiful. I mean, those partnerships, the synergy, like you said, good karma, not seeing people as competition,  really lifting each other up and supporting each other in this space and especially beauty, fashion, jewelry, all intertwined, we can all work harmoniously together. 

 Well, thank you for sharing all that again. I know we’ve talked about pivoting at any age  you certainly have had some really impressive pivots.

Do you think that at any point at any time, like there’s not a timeline, not an age, where someone can start to change careers or become an entrepreneurial spirit to get a new business idea off the ground. Do you think someone can truly pivot at any age? 

Lynn Power: [00:26:30] I do. Absolutely. I think there are plenty of examples of teenagers, 20 year olds, 30 year olds  starting businesses.

So there’s that, but a lot of the brands that I just mentioned, they’re older founders like me. Oh. And there’s another one that I have to make. Elaine Wellness, which is a collagen brand she’s,  also in her fifties and she started this brand and the thing I love about these brands is like she put a lot of work into the quality of the products to really make sure that she’s getting the best collagen and the best efficacy and she had her own health issues and it really worked for her.

 There’s something about being an older founder where you’re bringing more of your personal story into it. And a lot of times these businesses come from a founder’s own frustration or their own issues that they’ve had and also, like I said, it took us 10 years to make our formulas.

 I guess theoretically you could start when you’re 16 and then launch the business when you’re 26. But I do think  being an older founder in a lot of ways, actually has helped because I just think we’re resilient. We have experience, we can make decisions really fast.

We don’t sweat all the management stuff. Like a lot of the younger founders that I work with, or I know just through beta works and through other places, they’re worried about building a team, giving feedback, finding a partner,  things that are more, like I’ve done it a gazillion times.

 So I just think it’s like different in terms of the skill sets. But I think older founders actually, there’s a lot of studies now that have come out, there’s a Wharton study, older founders are more successful. I think they said the average age of success is 45.

When I hear of somebody thinking about pivoting and they’re in their forties or fifties or sixties. I mean, I work with an e-commerce platform. The woman that started it is in her sixties. I just say go for it because look, you’re not getting any younger, you’ve got all this experience.

 It’s like, you really shouldn’t feel like you’re being held back. I mean, there is ageism, but you just kind of have to ignore that and just prove everyone wrong, I suppose. 

Meghan Houle: [00:28:43] I think that anytime anyone’s sharing a personal vulnerability of like, this is why I brought this brand to life and it works, you’re not manufacturing something,  you’re actually bringing a part of you to life to share a product that’s been super helpful. 

And I think people really connect with stories as well. Stories come with time and age, and I agree with you. Thank you for sharing that as well as I know a lot of our listeners, career-wise, some are more in that back half of the career  and you can start at any age you can redo at any age.

 Kind of have to start and trust yourself and keep moving forward. Is there anything you learned at a young age that’s really stuck with you throughout your career? 

Lynn Power: [00:29:22] Boy. I would say one of the hardest things for me to learn, it’s still hard, but I’ve gotten better at it is that I’m a natural introvert and working in the advertising industry, you can’t really be an introvert.

At least not as like an account person, which is what I was. I was lucky that I had a boss very early in my career that basically would constantly push me out there and would make me present  and even if I was, I was horrible, like really bad at it. And it didn’t phase him.

He was like, oh, you’ll be better next time. And I would be like, what? There’s a next time? Oh my God. But learning that skill of like what I call myself as a learned extrovert. It’s almost like you’re pretending to be extroverted and then you are extroverted. That has served me well, because honestly, like I said, it’s, hard to be successful in business if you can’t put yourself out there.

 I know that a lot of other introverts struggle with that too, but you just have to get yourself to a position where you just do it and you’re not always comfortable, but you get okay with being uncomfortable. And I’m trying to now kind of teach my daughter some of that same stuff.

Cause she’s incredibly introverted also, but it’s hard it’s like I’ve learned and I had somebody kind of pull me through and she’s now sort of in that like deer in the headlights terrified stage of oh, my God, I can’t possibly get a job where I have to interact with people.

Meghan Houle: [00:30:54] Yes, that’s the world we live in. Well, she’s got a good mentor in you, she’s very lucky. Tell us a little bit more about how our listeners can find you, your products engage with brands.  I want to link all the amazing things that you talked about, but how can we connect with you and learn more about your products, your partnerships, where’s the best way to find you.

Lynn Power: [00:31:13] Our website is lovemasami.com, L O V E M A S A M I.com. But you can also follow us on all our social channels, which we’re on everything at lovemasamihair, everywhere. And a lot of times we’ll post a lot about our partners on all those. You’ll see us post giveaways or a blog post, or we might do an Instagram live with one of our other brand founders or do an interview, that kind of thing.

 Yeah, it’s pretty easy to kind of follow along  and see what’s going on. 

Meghan Houle: [00:31:48] And then product, especially haircare so important. The beauty uptick of 2020, it’s real. These beauty brands are taking off,  the haircare space, especially between hair color and home hair care.

Having products that really are effective and work, especially in the Northeast where it gets so dry. I mean, I’m a blonde as you know, so with our hair you definitely have to take special care.  It seems like you have some really amazing products and we can’t wait to continue to keep our eye on you and all that you’re doing.

 Thank you, Lynn, so much for all your insight into my hot topics and discussion around your pivots and working with passion and how you can pivot at any stage in life. I’m sure our listeners will be looking to connect with you and maybe join some of your IG lives and all the brands that you support. So I truly wish you continued success and we look forward to keeping our eye on you as well, and maybe for future partnerships. So thanks for being with us. 

Lynn Power: [00:32:41] Thank you so much. And I would love to actually interview you too. We’ll have to think  about that! 

Meghan Houle: [00:32:45] Okay. Well, yes. From one person who loves to talk to another. Absolutely! Well, thank you, Lynn. Enjoy Palm Springs and swimming. 

Lynn Power: [00:32:53] Thank you! 

Meghan Houle: [00:32:54] Okay. Lynn Power: [00:32:55] Bye!

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